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Antique Rare Side Winder Military Chronograph Pocket Watch
Estimated price for orientation: 1 750 $
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Description Condition: Pre-owned: An item that has been used or worn previously. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions- opens in a new window or tab ... Read moreabout the condition Brand: Star Watch Case Model: B.W. Raymond Closure: Open Face Case Material: Base Metal Features: Chronograph, Railroad Watch, Timer Country Made: USA Movement: MECHANICAL Country of Manufacture: United States
I have a Antigue, open face, sidewinder pocket watch, movement. Not a Re Strike You will not find another in this good working condition and note that this watch is special because of its ability to work as a stop watch. Below is some information I found on the internet just for a reference the only thing I will actually guarantee is what I have written above and that the watch is in good working order. Either military used or railroad used. It has taken a year to get all the history on this piece and a similar sold at auction for $14,450. PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK BEFORE BIDDING. THIS ITEM MUST BE SHIPPING WITH INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THE VALUE. I WILL GLADLY PAY FOR THE INSURANCE COST.AND SHIPPING. INTERNET RESEARCH NOT A CLAIM BY SELLER LISTED BELOW -- You own a wonderful, staid piece of history. Let me give you some background on your watch. Waltham watch co. was actually the brainchild of Aaron L. Dennison who began tinkering with inventing machinery that could make a machine (a watch) in 1818. The company was begun in 1850, Roxbury, Mass., but less than 5 yrs later moved to Waltham, Mass., thus the name. ---
Unfortunately, for a number of reasons over a brief 6 to 7 years of operation, the Waltham Watch Company closed. ---
Now here’s where it gets interesting. When the original Waltham co. closed, the property was purchased for Apple, Tracy & Co. that continued the watchmaking as “American Waltham Pocket Watch Co.” and flourished (1885). In 1905 the company renamed itself, once again, to the Waltham Watch Co.
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Waltham went out of business for good in approx.. 1957, about 3 years after they set up a subsidiary plant in Switzerland.
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In the meantime, XXXXX XXXXX, Dennison’s partner in the Waltham Watch Co., insisted on staying in the industry. When Charles Rice gave XXXXX XXXXX the seed money, Howard Pocket Watch Co. was born out of the failed Waltham Watch Co. in 1857. Howard used what was left of the Waltham mechanics, including the parts and movements of the watches never made (by Waltham). It was a year before the first Howard Watch was actually made.
--- Insisting on a top grade watch, XXXXX XXXXX came up with a couple new innovations that were quite impressive for the 1800’s: A “quick beat train” and a top plate in two sections with 6 pillars instead of 4, compensated balance and size 18. You’ll know these watches with the “N” mark.
--- The Howard Co. never made it’s own cases though, but in 1902 the Howard Co. transferred rights to the “XXXXX XXXXX” brand name to The Keystone Watch Case Co.. They then made cases with the name “Howard” on the dial and “E. Howard Watch Co., Boston, U.S.A.” on the movement.
---- The U.S. Watch Company of Waltham, Mass. shouldn’t be mistaken for having anything to do with any of the “Waltham Watch Co.’s” or the United States Watch Company in Marion, New Jersey.
---
The U.S. Watch Company of Waltham, MA was actually borne of the Waltham Watch Tool Company in 1879; later becoming the U.S. Watch Company in 1885.
---
Very interestingly, once it was decided to produce about 50 watches a day from this business, the directors decided to name it “Waltham Watch Co". With shades of litigation we thought only applied to this era, the American Waltham Watch Co sued them to prevent this (1899).
---
The end finally came in 1901 when the Philadelphia Watch Case Co. bought it, merging with Keystone Watch Case Co. 3 yrs later and of course then becoming part of Howard Watch Co. (1905).
---
Your particular Waltham is a better grade than just a 'working man's watch', made in 1911. ---
Flat out sales would likely be around $400 in an appropriate jewelry store, antique shop or online site that specializes in pocket watches. The higher price would be more associated to auctions where all it takes is two buyers wanting the same watch in order to drive the price up. When you have the watch tuned/cleaned/polished by a professional who knows antique pocket watches, ask them what options exist in your particular area when it comes to selling. Many jewelry stores that service such watches also sell them and you could be made an offer outright. -- Keep them honest by letting them know you are entertaining a second opinion (or even a third) before you decide. All in all, you have a very nice watch. Can't you just imagine the things this watch has seen; the hands that have held it, the watch pockets it has been tucked into? Wonderful isn't it? -- Good question. If you see the words "guaranteed 25 years" or "warranted 25 years" or anything similar to that on the case, it's gold filled (in this case 'white gold'). No such warranty or guarantee then it's a base metal probably with stainless steel back. The other numbers and etchings you see on the case really have no database for info. We're not sure what they meant, although a few attempts have been made to start a database - it seems that certain cases were made compatible to certain watch works. The watch maker had more use for these numbers than anyone else. And while one number means a specific make date for the watch works, a case number XXXXX span several years of watch works that fit it. Solid gold cases were relatively uncommon in this era, with gold filled, silver and base metal more popular for their long lasting durability :-) Thank you! That's very nice of you to say. Keep me in mind if you have anything else nearly as old as I am Pocket watches are one of my oldest passions. To imagine the hands that held them, the eyes that looked at the most accurate time pieces ever made is just endlessly fascinating to me.
Description
| Condition: | Pre-owned: An item that has been used or worn previously. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions- opens in a new window or tab ... Read moreabout the condition | Brand: | Star Watch Case |
| Model: | B.W. Raymond | Closure: | Open Face |
| Case Material: | Base Metal | Features: | Chronograph, Railroad Watch, Timer |
| Country Made: | USA | Movement: | MECHANICAL |
| Country of Manufacture: | United States |
I have a Antigue, open face, sidewinder pocket watch, movement. Not a Re Strike You will not find another in this good working condition and note that this watch is special because of its ability to work as a stop watch. Below is some information I found on the internet just for a reference the only thing I will actually guarantee is what I have written above and that the watch is in good working order. Either military used or railroad used. It has taken a year to get all the history on this piece and a similar sold at auction for $14,450. PLEASE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK BEFORE BIDDING. THIS ITEM MUST BE SHIPPING WITH INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THE VALUE. I WILL GLADLY PAY FOR THE INSURANCE COST.AND SHIPPING. INTERNET RESEARCH NOT A CLAIM BY SELLER LISTED BELOW -- You own a wonderful, staid piece of history. Let me give you some background on your watch. Waltham watch co. was actually the brainchild of Aaron L. Dennison who began tinkering with inventing machinery that could make a machine (a watch) in 1818. The company was begun in 1850, Roxbury, Mass., but less than 5 yrs later moved to Waltham, Mass., thus the name. ---
Unfortunately, for a number of reasons over a brief 6 to 7 years of operation, the Waltham Watch Company closed. ---
Now here’s where it gets interesting. When the original Waltham co. closed, the property was purchased for Apple, Tracy & Co. that continued the watchmaking as “American Waltham Pocket Watch Co.” and flourished (1885). In 1905 the company renamed itself, once again, to the Waltham Watch Co.
---
Waltham went out of business for good in approx.. 1957, about 3 years after they set up a subsidiary plant in Switzerland.
---
In the meantime, XXXXX XXXXX, Dennison’s partner in the Waltham Watch Co., insisted on staying in the industry. When Charles Rice gave XXXXX XXXXX the seed money, Howard Pocket Watch Co. was born out of the failed Waltham Watch Co. in 1857. Howard used what was left of the Waltham mechanics, including the parts and movements of the watches never made (by Waltham). It was a year before the first Howard Watch was actually made.
--- Insisting on a top grade watch, XXXXX XXXXX came up with a couple new innovations that were quite impressive for the 1800’s: A “quick beat train” and a top plate in two sections with 6 pillars instead of 4, compensated balance and size 18. You’ll know these watches with the “N” mark.
--- The Howard Co. never made it’s own cases though, but in 1902 the Howard Co. transferred rights to the “XXXXX XXXXX” brand name to The Keystone Watch Case Co.. They then made cases with the name “Howard” on the dial and “E. Howard Watch Co., Boston, U.S.A.” on the movement.
---- The U.S. Watch Company of Waltham, Mass. shouldn’t be mistaken for having anything to do with any of the “Waltham Watch Co.’s” or the United States Watch Company in Marion, New Jersey.
---
The U.S. Watch Company of Waltham, MA was actually borne of the Waltham Watch Tool Company in 1879; later becoming the U.S. Watch Company in 1885.
---
Very interestingly, once it was decided to produce about 50 watches a day from this business, the directors decided to name it “Waltham Watch Co". With shades of litigation we thought only applied to this era, the American Waltham Watch Co sued them to prevent this (1899).
---
The end finally came in 1901 when the Philadelphia Watch Case Co. bought it, merging with Keystone Watch Case Co. 3 yrs later and of course then becoming part of Howard Watch Co. (1905).
---
Your particular Waltham is a better grade than just a 'working man's watch', made in 1911. ---
Flat out sales would likely be around $400 in an appropriate jewelry store, antique shop or online site that specializes in pocket watches. The higher price would be more associated to auctions where all it takes is two buyers wanting the same watch in order to drive the price up. When you have the watch tuned/cleaned/polished by a professional who knows antique pocket watches, ask them what options exist in your particular area when it comes to selling. Many jewelry stores that service such watches also sell them and you could be made an offer outright. -- Keep them honest by letting them know you are entertaining a second opinion (or even a third) before you decide. All in all, you have a very nice watch. Can't you just imagine the things this watch has seen; the hands that have held it, the watch pockets it has been tucked into? Wonderful isn't it? -- Good question. If you see the words "guaranteed 25 years" or "warranted 25 years" or anything similar to that on the case, it's gold filled (in this case 'white gold'). No such warranty or guarantee then it's a base metal probably with stainless steel back. The other numbers and etchings you see on the case really have no database for info. We're not sure what they meant, although a few attempts have been made to start a database - it seems that certain cases were made compatible to certain watch works. The watch maker had more use for these numbers than anyone else. And while one number means a specific make date for the watch works, a case number XXXXX span several years of watch works that fit it. Solid gold cases were relatively uncommon in this era, with gold filled, silver and base metal more popular for their long lasting durability :-) Thank you! That's very nice of you to say. Keep me in mind if you have anything else nearly as old as I am Pocket watches are one of my oldest passions. To imagine the hands that held them, the eyes that looked at the most accurate time pieces ever made is just endlessly fascinating to me.